This erodes the public trust. Its extremely concerning that when caught in their lie, they double down and say "well there is still mental health problems." No one is denying there are issues of mental health. The problem is that you lied and doctored your studies like the many corrupt companies before you.
It’s amazing how every sentence in your article is tinged with a very clear hatred. You may bring up a few good points, but the stunning paucity at the very basics of adab and naseeha immediately dilute the effectiveness of your purported findings.
I don’t much like the graphic. Thanks for the adab policing. If you figure out how to politely point out someone is lying to the Muslim community for zakat please let me know.
This erodes the public trust. Its extremely concerning that when caught in their lie, they double down and say "well there is still mental health problems." No one is denying there are issues of mental health. The problem is that you lied and doctored your studies like the many corrupt companies before you.
I must admit I am a bit confused by the table below, and the authors' varying descriptions:
Muslim vs. Protestant 1.604 (0.913-2.820) 0.050
Muslim vs. Catholic 1.330 (0.743 -2.378) 0.168
Muslim vs. Jewish 2.261 (1.271 -4.019) 0.003
Muslim vs. No Religion 1.028 (0.563 -1.878) 0.464
In their direct response to Dr. Umarji on the JAMA website: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2782161, the authors say: "Without adjusting for any variables we found that U.S. Muslims tended to be more likely to report lifetime suicide attempts compared to other faith groups" (and then present the data).
Note, they clearly say above: "Without adjusting for any variables..."
But in their private response to JAMA, they say: "During our initial analysis we calculated the odds ratios for suicide comparing each religious group to Muslims, and since there was a trend between Muslims and Protestants and a statistically significant difference between Muslim and Jewish participants we proceeded with a multivariate analysis adjusting for common risk and protective factors described in the literature:" and then present the same table.
Note, here they say they are "adjusting for common risk and protective factors..."
So, which is it? Are the data adjusted or aren't they?
So the headline grabbing numbers (Muslims were twice as likely to attempt suicide as people of other faiths or no faiths) was adjusted using “regression analysis” that was prone to error since they did not have the data for variables they were accounting for. The other part of this is that they have to justify doing regression analysis with numbers that were worthless to start with. That’s how we get to unadjusted numbers. So to show they were right and Umarji was wrong, they lied about the p-value to make a critical number that was not in their favor into something that justified their work. This was just plain fraud.
Great work Ahmed, keep it up inshaAllah. JazakAllah khair
This erodes the public trust. Its extremely concerning that when caught in their lie, they double down and say "well there is still mental health problems." No one is denying there are issues of mental health. The problem is that you lied and doctored your studies like the many corrupt companies before you.
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Having the rate of attempts twice as higher than others, yet deaths less than all other religion groups - would be proof that islam is the answer.
Of course the best answer is quran 43:36 - ie mercy for even those whom one fears will harm them, ie quoting:
ومن يعش عن ذكر الرحمان نقيض له شيطانا فهو له قرين
It’s amazing how every sentence in your article is tinged with a very clear hatred. You may bring up a few good points, but the stunning paucity at the very basics of adab and naseeha immediately dilute the effectiveness of your purported findings.
Like even the Pinocchio icon..come on, you can do better
I don’t much like the graphic. Thanks for the adab policing. If you figure out how to politely point out someone is lying to the Muslim community for zakat please let me know.
This erodes the public trust. Its extremely concerning that when caught in their lie, they double down and say "well there is still mental health problems." No one is denying there are issues of mental health. The problem is that you lied and doctored your studies like the many corrupt companies before you.
Thank you for this.
I must admit I am a bit confused by the table below, and the authors' varying descriptions:
Muslim vs. Protestant 1.604 (0.913-2.820) 0.050
Muslim vs. Catholic 1.330 (0.743 -2.378) 0.168
Muslim vs. Jewish 2.261 (1.271 -4.019) 0.003
Muslim vs. No Religion 1.028 (0.563 -1.878) 0.464
In their direct response to Dr. Umarji on the JAMA website: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2782161, the authors say: "Without adjusting for any variables we found that U.S. Muslims tended to be more likely to report lifetime suicide attempts compared to other faith groups" (and then present the data).
Note, they clearly say above: "Without adjusting for any variables..."
But in their private response to JAMA, they say: "During our initial analysis we calculated the odds ratios for suicide comparing each religious group to Muslims, and since there was a trend between Muslims and Protestants and a statistically significant difference between Muslim and Jewish participants we proceeded with a multivariate analysis adjusting for common risk and protective factors described in the literature:" and then present the same table.
Note, here they say they are "adjusting for common risk and protective factors..."
So, which is it? Are the data adjusted or aren't they?
So the headline grabbing numbers (Muslims were twice as likely to attempt suicide as people of other faiths or no faiths) was adjusted using “regression analysis” that was prone to error since they did not have the data for variables they were accounting for. The other part of this is that they have to justify doing regression analysis with numbers that were worthless to start with. That’s how we get to unadjusted numbers. So to show they were right and Umarji was wrong, they lied about the p-value to make a critical number that was not in their favor into something that justified their work. This was just plain fraud.